I want to thank everyone for contributing their well thought out comments for yesterday's post. I attempted to approach the post with a seriousness befitting the topic. I will follow up with everyone in the next couple of days.
I'd like to extend this line of thought for a bit, taking it to a new place - and in doing so, I have some questions.
~C4Chaos pointed me to this blog post by Jake, over at Zaadz. called About Spiritual Teachers.
It's a good post. I would add one thing however.
The spiritual relationship with a teacher, is not like the relationship with, say, your basketball coach.
Like therapy - it's a relationship of deep vulnerability for the students, and also a very unequal power dynamic.
And as such, shouldn't the Code of Ethics that are "signed off on" by teachers be similar to the Code of Ethics signed off on by therapists?
Most organizations have some type of Code of Ethics. And when complaints arise about signers to the code of ethics, there exists a body to INVESTIGATE the complaints - separate from any type of legal action. And the signees to the code of ethics, have a pre-agreement to accede to this type of investigation.
Take a look at this American Association of Pastoral Counselors Code of Ethics. A large bit here:
PRINCIPLE III - CLIENT RELATIONSHIPS
It is the responsibility of members of AAPC to maintain relationships with clients on a professional basis.
1. We do not abandon or neglect clients. If we are unable, or unwilling for appropriate reasons, to provide professional help or continue a professional relationship, every reasonable effort is made to arrange for continuation of treatment with another professional.
2. We make only realistic statements regarding the pastoral counseling process and its outcome.
3. We show sensitive regard for the moral, social, and religious standards of clients and communities. We avoid imposing our beliefs on others, although we may express them when appropriate in the pastoral counseling process.
4. Counseling relationships are continued only so long as it is reasonably clear that the clients are benefiting from the relationship.
5. We recognize the trust placed in and unique power of the therapeutic relationship. While acknowledging the complexity of some pastoral relationships, we avoid exploiting the trust and dependency of clients. We avoid those dual relationships with clients (e.g., business or close personal relationships) which could impair our professional judgement, compromise the integrity of the treatment, and/or use the relationship for our own gain.
6. We do not engage in harassment, abusive words or actions, or exploitative coercion of clients or former clients.
7. All forms of sexual behavior or harassment with clients are unethical, even when a client invites or consents to such behavior or involvement. Sexual behavior is defined as, but not limited to, all forms of overt and covert seductive speech, gestures, and behavior as well as physical contact of a sexual nature; harassment is defined as but not limited to, repeated comments, gestures or physical contacts of a sexual nature.
8. We recognize that the therapist/client relationship involves a power imbalance, the residual effects of which are operative following the termination of the therapy relationship. Therefore, all sexual behavior or harassment as defined in Principle III, G with former clients is unethical.
Especially look at 5 and 6 above.
"We recognize the trust placed in and unique power of the therapeutic relationship"
"We do not engage in harassment, abusive words or actions, or exploitative coercion of clients or former clients."
This is completely pie in the sky - so feel free to mock me here! - that organizations that I would like to be associated with - like, say Integral Institute - would be willing to sign some adapted form of a Code of Ethics, on behalf of the organization. And, pushing it further, would associate in the main, only with other organizations that ALSO would have adopted a formal Code of Ethics, with an assent to have an investigating body - again, separate from legal investigations. (And note - there is nothing regarding a code of behavior or a code of ethics that I can find on the website of Integral Institute, regarding relationships among people at the institute, or relationships with other organizations.)
Now, would this prevent abuse? Of course not - but at least it would put a mechanism in place, whereby there is some accountability. And then ticking ethical timebombs, like say Marc Gafni situation (where there were previous accusations that, sadly, ended up being accurate) or the Andrew Cohen situation, end up tainting the organization that I do want to be part of, and that I do care about.
The above is most likely completely unrealistic, but I thought I would throw it out there. As Tuff Ghost said in comments to the previous post:
"Wilber is in a position of power in regards to teacher endorsements". (Please go back and read the comment, its a good one).
As well, I've had personal email communication from a couple of folks, who haven't been willing to engage more with Integral Institute because of the "taint" of these type of associations.
And that's a shame, I think.
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One More Follow-Up - Formal Ethics Code?
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Re: One More Follow-Up - Formal Ethics Code?
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Shaving an egg
on Sat 20 May 2006 07:43 AM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
There's a post on Rabbi Marc Gafni on Wilber's blog. His victims have all my sympathy.
I guess we are exposed to this in many situations (therapy, spiritual counceling, etc.) Not only catholic priests or psychoanalists, but primary school teachers or sport trainers for instance take advantage of students and patients. Since gurus know it's not ok what they are doing (and say they can't help it) I think there's a lot of work to do in the other side: the student/follower/guided. Before starting any practice, they should know by all means that no matter how they feel, teachers should not cross some lines since experience says that it is always a indicator of bad performance (no exceptions here, sorry, I know he/she looks great). My friends and me had a ethic code for girlfriends in college. If there is something special between you and you're best friend's girlfriend, and you both want to explore it and go on, don't cheat! Ask this girl to leave him, wait six months, and then go for it. If you are not able to do that, there is not friendship or love anywhere. Therefore, for instance, everybody should know that there is a way for doing things (like having an affair with your "guru") if you change the relationship and conditions to let it happen. If not, missconduct should be inmediatly reported and checked. It's disturbing how we can hide ill impulses to others (like Marc Gafni did to Wilber, apparently they are good friends). If friends aren't aware, who could? Re: One More Follow-Up - Formal Ethics Code?
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Marty
on Mon 22 May 2006 07:33 AM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
I think one other important aspect that needs to be mentioned here is about money and publicity. Cohen and Wilber make their living by being "Spiritual teachers". Wilber of course is a successful author, however putting together and running IN, I-I and IU cost a lot of money and needs a lot PR.
This plays a part in their collaboration as they both gain something from their relationship. They both get exposure (good PR) and Cohen, imo, gains credibility by being associated with Wilber. Running and putting out a quality nation-wide magazine like WIE (and now the EnlightenedNext organization) is not cheap, nor is hiring journalistic talent to fly around the world and interview gurus. It takes a lot of money to do all that they are doing, plus I am sure they all have a fairly high standard of living as well. I am a subscriber to WIE and it is easy to see when an organization has advertised heavily in the magazine that at some point they have a good chance of getting "a story" done on them. A good example of this is Peter Ragnar, who makes the outrageous claim we can live forever. He has spent a lot of money advertising in WIE with consistent full page ads and he finally got an Unbound audio interview with Cohen, "a story" done on him in the magazine and now he is beginning to write regular commentaries for WIE. Having a small business myself who spends money on advertising, I know how the media works. Many magazines will gladly do a positive "story" on my business if I buy a substantial amount of advertising from them and this is true of large city news papers too. Then "my story" (put in a positive light of course) does not appear to be advertising, and this gives it much more credibility, but in a sense it really is advertising because I paid for it. Almost all of the media works this way to some extent. Thus when Zaadz pays and commits to do a lot of full page ads in WIE, do you not think that this plays a significant part in them getting “a story” in the new issue? I can tell you it does. (Note: I like Zaadz and am happy they are in WIE, but all of this does not a happen in a vacuum. It takes cash.) And the new issue of WIE is practically devoted to Wilber and his new up coming book. Why? I can tell it is because I-I has committed a substantial amount of advertising to WIE thus helping to keep it alive. Almost all media lives off their ads. Look at the back or inner covers of the last few WIEs, it is all full page ads for I-I or IN. I am NOT saying this is evil or wrong; it is just the cold hard truth if you want your name out there, it takes money and it takes a medium that reach people open to your message. Zaadz has a lot of cash! Look at all the advertising they have done recently in national magazines. As they say, money makes the world go round, this is true, imo, even in the spiritual business. We sometimes forget this vital issue, thus my point is, if Wilber would distance himself from Cohen he would lose a huge PR source and so would Zaadz now. WIE has turned a lot people on to Wilber and I-I. So all this has to be weighed in context of growing a business or a movement. Re: Re: One More Follow-Up - Formal Ethics Code?
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ebuddha
on Mon 22 May 2006 10:24 AM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Very very good point. It's the same in the world of tech magazines.
I'm never sure just how successful that type of advertise - in a paper - is. Certainly its a source of PR, but at our company, we have had a lot of success with Google Adwrod buys - much more than advertising. I think advertising buys awareness. But that is definitely a good point. There may be a larger good being accomplished. On the other hand, this might be why Cohen's personal guru trip is tolerated - because he has one of the most successful magazines, so he can spread the word for others? Re: Re: Re: One More Follow-Up - Formal Ethics Code?
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Marty
on Mon 22 May 2006 11:15 AM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Yes, Cohen has a great magazine to spread the word among the spiritually hip. Even Genpo Roshi has ads in WIE!
BTW, ebuddha I am coming to San Fran next week! Are you going to be in town? It would be fun if we could have coffee. I will send you an email. Trackbacks
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