Here's the link - if you haven't seen it.
Now that Ken Wilber has revealed that the blogrant post was a deliberate provocation - as many of us NOT in the know suspected - there isn't much that I would have to retract, yet, of my posts of the last few days. At least at this point - although I'm sure that is coming.
a. I initially was puzzled,
b. the logic didn't make much sense
c. Visser is still being distorted, and
d. In the last post, I speculated that this was deliberate, as well as anticipated Ken's appeal to the 2nd tier.
e.(I also in the beginning speculated that part of the reason for Ken's post was to pick up clicks.)
Here's the relevant passage: from my previous post - written before Ken reveals that his initial blog rant was a deliberate provocation:
1. I feel that Ken is being pretty honest here. He truly sees almost
all critics that address him as not being able to either understand his
theory, or attacking his theories for nefarious reasons. And he feels
that about Visser, though clearly his logic on that is skewed (as I've
demonstrated.)
2. At the same time - he is "blowing it up" -
taking his normal arguments and exaggerating them, for effect. In this
sense, he is playing with his normal reaction, and, to a degree,
spoofing it, with a wink and a smile. ("I'm just kidding with all the
dick references, can't you tell?")
If you are going to stick in
the verbal shiv - the best way to do it, is to tell a joke while you
are doing the sticking. Then you always have an out - "I'm just
kidding - don't you have a sense of humor?".
3. And, I want
to describe a very important point here, and I mainly mean this as a
response to Jay Andrew Allen, and also a little to Bill -
When
a person has some access to some higher consciousness - a higher truth,
etc, that has been achieved in a particular bodymind, this truth shines
through - even if the bodymind shining that truth is behaving in a
particularly atrocious way.
While I was (clearly) obsessing
about Wilber's post and what it "means" (and what is a blogger but an
obsesser?), I began to "touch", and "vibrate" with that sense of cosmic
play. In this sense, Ken's smiling mug, winking at me saying "see?
all this - these horrible words - these words too do not destroy the
truth of your Self. So open, live, love, play, be angry in the
beneficience of God. Because this is the final Truth".
Now, why I am attempting to justify my recent posts of the last few days?
While you may think it is just because of the natural tendency not to want to made to look foolish - and I'm sure that is part of it - but there is another reason:
This actually, for me, reaffirms the ability of blogs - using this type of communal analysis - to suss out truth. Even while interpreting words on a screen. For example, I was helped along in my perception, by hearing those people who were saying "do you get the joke?", and helped by pretty much all the posts I've read over the last few days.
Communally, we didn't do a bad job. Maybe this blog thing has a future?
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Don't worry champ, we can start a new club, the 'not quite brights'. We're top 10, just not top 2. Our clubhouse will be the peanut gallery, where we can lob arguments of no consequence, like factual consistency, at our super-intelligent brethren.
This ranting thing is fun! Just kidding to all you 2 percenters out there. On a serious note, doesn't the fact that Wilber had to explain his original blog post, plus the fac t that so much has come about because of blogospheric dialogue, actually reinforce the need for more dialogue, not less? Re: Re: Ken Follows Up His Post
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ebuddha
on Mon 12 Jun 2006 11:04 AM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
You would think - but over 98 percent will be 1st tier - and surely THEY don't have anything of contribution for the 2nd tiers to listen to, do they?
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Jay Andrew Allen
on Sun 11 Jun 2006 10:24 PM PDT | Permanent Link
No surprises in Ken's latest. But Tom Armstrong being in on it? THAT threw me.
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ebuddha
on Mon 12 Jun 2006 11:06 AM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Tom DID play it up, didn't he?
It's time to plot a Punk'd moment for Tom. Who's with me!?! Re: Ken Follows Up His Post
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Edward Berge
on Mon 12 Jun 2006 07:27 AM PDT | Permanent Link
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Chris Dierkes
on Mon 12 Jun 2006 01:24 PM PDT | Permanent Link
For whatever it's worth my man (and T Gizhost) he did you could be against the post and still be in the 2%. He said that 30% responded that way.
30% of the 2% Or .6% by my calculation. And I imagine everyone is about 96.358% tired of all this. I sure am. Re: Re: Ken Follows Up His Post
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ebuddha
on Mon 12 Jun 2006 02:11 PM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Good point, Chris, good point.
What's my fave non-dual X-tian up to these days, btw? Re: Ken Follows Up His Post
Hey pal! I posted for the first time at http://shavinganegg.zaadz.com/blog !!!
All this mess made me do it :) I'd love to hear your brutally honest opinion of it. hugs Re: Re: Ken Follows Up His Post
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ebuddha
on Wed 14 Jun 2006 05:08 PM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
I'll get on that by the weekend...
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ebuddha
on Wed 14 Jun 2006 05:09 PM PDT | Profile | Permanent Link
actually, probably tomorrow! :)
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Lastly - did it work? Was it worth it?
For me - probably not. When Ken says "Because if you are in that 2%, I’d really like to speak with you.", my initial reaction is "Well, I guess I'm not in that 2% - and that's fine with me".
As Tuff Ghost says - I guess it's time to turn in my secret decoder ring!